This isn’t the one you’ll be expecting if you listened to last week’s instalment which kicked off my chat with Mark Ayres. That’ll wend its way to your ears next time.

We are reaching the end of the project of course so the countdown element is important – more important than my notes are legible so I had accidentally assumed this conversation came later in my quest that it did. So I’ve hastily cut it together and put it in its rightful place in the canon.

It’s a good chat with a director responsible for many classic episodes of Doctof Who. I hope you enjoy it.


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